Do you think a Quota System in Education is helpful

[D K]

good one indian groom ji .... really appreciate ur step towards helping others
keep up the good work buddy

yaar tusi naraj na hona menu koi baat tenu na kahi bhai........tusi great boy of lucknow ho naraj na hona khan sahab. :lol:

main kab naraz hua?

[indian_groom]

rightly said indian_groom.


I agree that our great leaders such as Dr. Bhim Rao Ambedkhar, Raja Ram Mohan Roy, have done a lot to remove the difference between castes. But my dear friend those leaders cannot be compared with the one today. They are not even the 1/4 th of the leaders we had before and at the time of Independence. They just want to introduce the Quota system to get some votes in there bag and tell me one thing why do we need this quota as I am saying can't we be all together and live like a normal human being. you know the quota system is just found in India. No other country support it. Its because of this fact that the other countries have dveloped easily. Don't misunderstand  me. I am just against the Quota system but not the SC/ST/OBC. When we can remove this differnce of inequality why don't we lend our hand to abolish this quota system.

Why can't we just fulfill the dreams that our great leaders dreamt off. They have done so much for us and even died with the hope that we will understand this one day that there is no user of caste system. Each human can be treated as one and can be given the same amount of love and affection. This will not only help our country to develop but will definately make us a gud human being.

SO LETS LEND OUR HAND TO REMOVE THIS QUOTA SYSTEM AND PROVIDE EACH HUMAN BEING THE RIGHT TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE

lets see jo hoga so hoga humlog behes karke kuch nahi ukhad lenge.........hum apne view pe kaayam rahege aap apne.........so nothing will change............well aaj ki news tau dekhi hogi JNU mein kaisi ladai hue dono samudai ke bich mein rahi equility ki baat tau gap tau hoo chuka usse aab bhagwan he bhar sakta............abhi tau aage aage dekhiye hota hai........question bil kul clear hota jaa raha aab baat ki jaghe ladai aur galli galoz ne lena suru kar diya hai.........bura mat manna gum bhai...........ek chiz hai aab jo bhi hoga bahoot dilchasp hoga.........aur rahi reservation hatane ki baat tau wo tau sun he liya hoga.................noooooooooooooooooooooooooo. ................well ............ye galti humne ki tau apne per pe he kulhadi marege..........desh mein khun beh jaye manjur hai tokre ho jaye manjur but haq jo mila hai nahi chodege.......aur rahi reservation ke baat kisi aur country mein tau america mein reservation lagu hai blacks ke liye wo bhi ek jaati bhed hai aur waha ye kabhi nahi hatega.........aur sayad paata ho NASA mein space mission ke liye asia....aur central asia ke liye ek ek seats reseved hai...jis ke wajhe se indian citizens ko space mission me shamil kiya jaata hai......sayad aap ko paata ho gum shab....aur baatane ke liye bahoot kuch hai ki kaha kiya reservation lagu hai......lekin koi fayada nahi.......bhais ka koi aant nahi hota its end less..............waise meine bahoot jayada detail mein view de chuka hoo ab aur kiya kahu..........sorry finnally leaving forum  ..........................bye..........jayada lihuga tau accha nahi hai........aap jo gali dene hai do...........hum bhi denge............equility my foot........ye kabhi kabhi kabhi kabhi kabhi kabhi kabhi kabhi nahi aaaaa  sakti..............ye iss desh ka bhawisye hai...............agar hume nahi mila tau kisi ko nahi milega............... agar nahi ruka tau tasver ka trailor JNU mmein dikha khun baihne ke roop mein................baki jaghe bhi yahi hoga..........aap ke andolan ko rokne ke liye idhar se andolan hoga jo ki dheere accha assar dalega........................hum jalege sanam tumhe bhi sath me jaladenge............agar hume nahi jeene doge tau aap bhi nahi jee sakoge............you can say suicide of india..............every action has equel reaction.............jitna jaayada aap khilafat karoge..........utna hum samarthan karege.........intazar central govtment ka hai wo kiya faisla lete hai..............faisla tau badal nahi sakta...........bass iss andolan se fayada hoga seats bhad jayege........... :lol: ..........mein iss forum mein saff taur pe badda he bhade sabad bolne pad rahe hai...........lekin yahi aaj ki bhes ke humare logo ke bich mein hoti hai.............khuda kare ke kayamat ho aur shanti aa jaye............sach kahu ye sab sunne ke baad jaise koi apne maa baap ke liye lad marr jaata hai............wahi yaha hoga...........dukh hota hai lekin humapno ka virodha unhe khaye mein dhakel ke nahi kar sakte ................... dono baate sahi all views are clear lekin faisla poore desh ke dono taraf ke samudai ke marji se he hoga.........nahi tau hindustan mein hindustan pakistan ki paristhiti pahooch jayege............aur sirf khun behta hai aur badlta kuch nahi........jaise yaha lad kar hum kuch nahi kar sakte...........waise he ab iss forum se poori tarah hat raha hoon akele apne dimak ko gusse dila raha hoon...........aur wo mein nahi chata..........aap log apni one sided bhais mubarak hoooooooooooooooooo

aur waise bhi mujhe jo karna hai mein tau kar he raha apni taraf se abhi computer course ki free madadt aur knowleage de raha hoon......bhagwan ne chah tau acche level balki kafi bade level pe apne logo ko samarth banaye ki wo reservation ke alwa aap logo biche kare........aap tau sirf bakk bakk kar sakte ho.........cars me ghumo......zindagi ke majje lo dont worry about uss hum apna rasta khud banayege.........agar sachi me maddat karne ki equilty lane ki baat karte ho tau in doctore se poocho ye kyun gaoo mein posting ki jaati hai tau naukri se isstifa de dete hai........ki hum gaoo ke hospitals mein kaam nahi karege kya waha zanwar rehte hai.........aur aap logo se poochu aaj tak aapne iss yoindia aur apne future ke alwa kuch socha bass yahi ki dusro haq kaise mare jaye aur apni pocket aur paisa bhara jaye.........aur jab duniya ka smane aaye tay equilty le ka beth jaye.........aur andar saitan se batar bann jao.......hum se acchi halat mein tau musalman aur chritian hai..........kaam se kaam outer country unhe apna tau manti hai.........maddat tau karti hai..........aur humare liye .kaisa desh aur kaise apne log...........ho sake tau waha jaoo jahan hindustan ki aatma basti hai gaoo waha jaa kar maddat karo whan garibo jo books nahi arjest kara sakte unhe maddat karo lekin tab dekh lena bahoot se logo ki purse ek rupey bhi nahi niklega.........aur jo karte hai maddat wo tau apna khun bech dete hai  agar kar sako aisa tau ye naveen salam karega aap ko.......khule aam kheta hoon.........yaha bakk bakk kar ke kuch nahi kar paoge.........aur nahi kar sakte tau fir chop raho aur tammasa dekho..............[/size]

[indian_groom]

Rightly Said Dude! Its really hard to make some one agree to what you said. This was just a poll. So i guess now it shuld be closed as this section is getting hotter and hotter.

What do you say groom

its long hard decision to end reservation.............you know justice is not be one sidede..........its need equility............aur hum ye bhi jante hai ki kanoon ki devi ke ke ankho me pati bandhi hoti hai........jiska matlab hota hai ki koi faisla jo dono ko manjur ho lete waqat keetni hi bato ko nazarandaz karna parta hai...........for example humri seats jo vacant rahe jati hai usse kai merit wale fayada uthane se chuk jate hai...........but sachai sachai hoti hai they are reserved one day we are the down cast people himself end this reservation when in real mean equilty and good education get by all 100 childrens of india..........hum sirf dua aur apne taraf se mehnat kar sakte hai..............well gum mujhe laga tum react karoge mere kuch galat bhi lih diya hoga sayad..........lekin i like your attitute............need people like you................god bless india

[shayar_dildaar]

Very good stuff Gum and Desi_dulhe...Its really nice to see discussions and debating going on in such a pacific and healthy way....I whole heartedly appreciate views from both the sides....Would like to thank DK as well for his very cognizant views.....

Keep the discussion 'on', guys and gals..

[nidhi_yadein]

Well i m totally against this Quota system and i m also taking parts in rally's which r going on now a days.nice views by everyone,its totally politics n nothing else and the politics of these rubbish netaas is interfering a lot in our careers.Infact ab to hadh ho gayi hai,feel like killing Arjun Singh :devil: .On my experience i have noticed,the quota students are not able 2 go along in class with the merit students,afterall talent is talent.Dunno when all this be stop or will it ever be or not.Until this quota dosent stop,India can never go up.

[D K]

'Decision on quota is final, the chapter is closed'

http://www.ibnlive.com/article.php?id=11063&section_id=4

[badnaam_shayar]

yes friends......my vote is aginst you all..........well before your views you must think abt that.....why quata system is used in our democraty.......have you ever read a constitution abt reservation...............but mein ek baat se sehmat ho.....ki aaj kal jo.....resevation......lagu ho rahe hai............wo politisian ki chal......vote bank jama karne ke liye........magar resevation is not a wrong......its help our society to give a equal status to peoples.......did you know rules and regulation of reservation......agar paata hota tau........nahi bolte.......mein pochta hoon.......human rigts coomision kyun banaya gay......kyunki kuch log hai jo.......dusro pe jurm karte hai......unki maddat ke liye.....aam janta sirf views de sakti hai maddad nahi kar sakti.................mahila aayog kyun bane...........kyunki unpe jab julum hota hai tab......ushe sab afsoos karte hai koi madad karne nahi aata.....sab apna view dete hai.........lekin agar ye mahila aayog aur......human rights commision ko constitution se power na mili hoti tau mahilao pe jo julm aur garib pe jo humle hota hai......inhe kabhi insaaf nahi mil paata.............waise he resrvation unlogo ke liye hai.......jo samaj ke aise log jo garib logo ko daba ke rakhte hai unhe phadne nahi dete......un samj ke dekhedaro ke liye hai jo dusro ko aage nahi badhne dete.......think abt that............aur ek baat america mein black peoples ke liye jab tak resevation nahi lagu huye the usse pehle aap sab jante hai unki waha kya halat thi.......unhe ek kuute se jayada kuch nahi samjha jata tha.........aur jo talented log the unhe bhi daba diya jata tha........aur janna chate ho tau mohd ali ki life lihi gaye kitab phad lena samjh jaoge..........wahi garib dalit.....logo ka haal india me tha iss democracty se pehle..............agar bura lage tau sorry...................but im 100% against you...........god bless you.


one line i really like writen by new yorker...suggestion of free education......but tell me who one come forward to give money for this type of program.......they all bussiness family are just think how im grow up in the list of billioners.......and govt polticians are busy to fill his house from govt money.......no one think abt poor peoples......and those thinks.....they are not able to support finencially to poor peoples........but these quata system make preesure to provide money and equal satutus to those student who never particpate with.....rich family members.....bcoz for knowleage you must need books.....and books you must need money.......thats why they not compitate with upper cast student and thats why minmum pecentge addmission powers....and fixed seats for him......that  give him to enter the institions.


mein maafi chata hoon agar koi baat buri lagi ho........but every think is not right.

Lagta hai aapne Constituion ki ABCD bhi nahi padi.....usme saaf saaf likha hai India jaisi Democratic country main kisi bhi cheez ko leke koi Partionality nahi ki jaa sakti.......this the meaning of DEMOCRAY......aap kya maante ho kya Quote ki Population ke paas humlogo se deemaag kam hota hai......aisa kuch nahi hai........Baat EFFORTS ki hai.....aaj mostly hamare Politcians QUOTA cataegory ke hee hain........thats why bas woh apni jaat ko forward kar rahe hain........and WE ALL ARE STUPIDS KI YAHAN BEHES KAR RAHE JINME SE AADHE LOG AISE HAIN JO INDIA ME REHTE BHI NAHI......JO LOG YAHAN KE LIYE KUCH KAR BHI NAHI SAKTE.......BUT JO BHI HUA YA PHIR HOGA.......GOVERNMENT HAS TO PAY FOR THIS.........SPECIALLY MR.ARJUN SINGH.......!!!!!!!!!

[badnaam_shayar]

Well i m totally against this Quota system and i m also taking parts in rally's which r going on now a days.nice views by everyone,its totally politics n nothing else and the politics of these rubbish netaas is interfering a lot in our careers.Infact ab to hadh ho gayi hai,feel like killing Arjun Singh :devil: .On my experience i have noticed,the quota students are not able 2 go along in class with the merit students,afterall talent is talent.Dunno when all this be stop or will it ever be or not.Until this quota dosent stop,India can never go up.

I JUST WANT THE SUPPORT.......I WILL TELL HIM WAT THE HELL IS???HOW IT LOOKS.......!!!!!!!!! :evil:  :evil:  :evil:

[shayar_dildaar]

Shanti rakho......Yeh debating thread hain bhai....We all feel the same but we should get our message across sensibly and thoughtfully.....

Well i m totally against this Quota system and i m also taking parts in rally's which r going on now a days.nice views by everyone,its totally politics n nothing else and the politics of these rubbish netaas is interfering a lot in our careers.Infact ab to hadh ho gayi hai,feel like killing Arjun Singh :devil: .On my experience i have noticed,the quota students are not able 2 go along in class with the merit students,afterall talent is talent.Dunno when all this be stop or will it ever be or not.Until this quota dosent stop,India can never go up.

I JUST WANT THE SUPPORT.......I WILL TELL HIM WAT THE HELL IS???HOW IT LOOKS.......!!!!!!!!! :evil:  :evil:  :evil:

[indian_groom]

Lagta hai aapne Constituion ki ABCD bhi nahi padi.....usme saaf saaf likha hai India jaisi Democratic country main kisi bhi cheez ko leke koi Partionality nahi ki jaa sakti.......this the meaning of DEMOCRAY......aap kya maante ho kya Quote ki Population ke paas humlogo se deemaag kam hota hai......aisa kuch nahi hai........Baat EFFORTS ki hai.....aaj mostly hamare Politcians QUOTA cataegory ke hee hain........thats why bas woh apni jaat ko forward kar rahe hain........and WE ALL ARE STUPIDS KI YAHAN BEHES KAR RAHE JINME SE AADHE LOG AISE HAIN JO INDIA ME REHTE BHI NAHI......JO LOG YAHAN KE LIYE KUCH KAR BHI NAHI SAKTE.......BUT JO BHI HUA YA PHIR HOGA.......GOVERNMENT HAS TO PAY FOR THIS.........SPECIALLY MR.ARJUN SINGH.......!!!!!!!!!

wow........well dear rahi ye baat ki meine domocracy kya hai nahi janta meine uski ABCD NAHI PHADI LEKIN LAGTA HAI TUMNE PHADI HAI.........SO TELL ME DO U READ CONSTITUTION ABCS................HI........Z..........BCOZ HALF KNOWLEAGE IS DANGERS.........AUR JO THODA SA PHAD KE YE SAMJH LETE HAI KI UNHONE SAB JAAN LIYA TAU DUSRE KO NAHI APNA MAJAK BANNA LETE HAI...............MEIN SIRF ITNA KAHUGA...........KI HUM LOG NAYE AGE KE LOG HAI.........YE RESERVATION KYUN BANNA JAB USKA POORA KNOWLEAGE NA HO TAU NA BOLO..........ABHI TUM NE KAHA KI SARE NETA BACKWARD CLASS KE HAI TABHI WO APNI CHALA RAHE HAI...........TAU MERE JAAN YAHI CASTISAM HAI............AGAR SARE LOG TUMAHRI CAST KE HOTE TAU WO CHALATE YANI MATLAB SAFF HAI KI JISKI LADHI USSI KE BHAIS..............FIR BAAT WAHI HO GAYE 1947 SE PEHLI WALI........TUM SAMJH GAYE HOGE KI JAATI PAAT IS DESH JAB TAK 100% NAHI JAYEGA TAB KAHI NA KAHI JULUM AUR HAQ MARE JAATE RAHEGE.........YE SIRF INDIA KA NAHI POORI DUNIYA KO DEKHO.........AMIR COUNTRY GARIB COUNTRY KE SATH KYA BARTAV KARTE HAI...........AUR RAHI BAAT KI HUMARE PASS TUM LOGO SE KAAM DIMAK NAHI HOTA YE BAAT SACH HAI.........LEKIN ISS DIMAK KO USE KARNE KA MAUKA TAU DENA CHAIYE........EFFORT TAU HUMKARTE HAI TAB AAJ YAHA PAHUCHE HAI ........LEKIN AGAR AAP KE EFFOET KE BAWJOOT AAP KOI KAMYABI PAATE HAI TAU USSE DAWA DIYA JAATA HAI............JAISE MAHABHARAT MEIN DRAUNACHARYA NE ARJUN KO JAB SHASTRA KA GAYAN DIYA THA CHOP KE EKLAWAYE NE BHI WO VIDIYA SIKH LE LEKIN DOWN CASTE KA HONE KE WAJHE SE DRAUNACHARYA KI WAHI CAST KI SOCH NE USSE APNE GURU DAKSHIRA KE ROOP MEIN USKI UNGLI MANG LI AUR USSE WAPAS USSE BHI BATAR SITHITI MEIN PAHUCCHA DIYA.........ISSSI TARAH KI BAATE ALAG ALAG DHAG SE UPPER CAST WALE DOWN CAST SE KARTE THE USSE KAWAZ BANNAE KE LIYE HE YE RESERVATION BANNA............AGAR TUMNE CONSTITUION STUDY KYA HAI TAU...........CLAUS  15(4), 340(1) AND CLAUS 338 (10) DEKH LENA SAMJH JAOGE. AUR RAHI UNKI BAAT JO DESH KE BHAR REHTE HAI TAU DESH YE UNKA BHI HAI AUR APNE GHAR KI FIKRA WO BHI KARNE KA HAQ RAKHTE HAI BAAT CHAI KISI KE KHILAF HO YA SUPPORT MEIN.........DESH KE BARE MEIN SOCHNA AUR KOI SALAH DENA APNE DESH KE BARE MEIN UNKA CONSTITUTIONAL RITE HAI ..........AUR JANAM SIDH ADHIKAR HAI.........AGAR SAB YAHI SOCHANE LAGE KE HUM APNE DESH MEIN NAHI REHTA TAU HUM USKI MADAT NAHI KAREGE ........TAU JAAN LO YE DESH KI POWER AUR IZZAT PE DEPEND KARTA HAI KI BAKI DUNIYA MEIN TUMHRE SATH ISSE BASE PE REACT KARTE HAI AGAR AAP ACCHE AUR DEVOLOPING COUNTRY KE HAI TAU AAP KAISE BHI AAP KAU SAMMAN KI NAJRO SE DEKHA JAATA HAI..........AUR AGAR AAP GARIB DESH KE HAU TAU AAP KE SATH WAISA HE BARTAB KIYA JAATA HAI.........NRI APNE DESK KI MADDAT KAR KE APNA HE IZZAT ME IZZAFA KARTE HAI...........DUNIYA MEIN APKI IZZAT TABHI HOTI JAB AAP KE GHAR(COUNTRY) WALO KI KOI SAMMJ MEI IZZAT HO ....AUR YE BANNAE PARTI HAI.......TAU FIR KYUN NA NRI APNA VIEW YAHA RAKHE.............KEEP GOING YAAR .........BAHOOT SOCHA NA LIKHU LEKIN KYA KARU.

[indian_groom]

Well i m totally against this Quota system and i m also taking parts in rally's which r going on now a days.nice views by everyone,its totally politics n nothing else and the politics of these rubbish netaas is interfering a lot in our careers.Infact ab to hadh ho gayi hai,feel like killing Arjun Singh :devil: .On my experience i have noticed,the quota students are not able 2 go along in class with the merit students,afterall talent is talent.Dunno when all this be stop or will it ever be or not.Until this quota dosent stop,India can never go up.

WAH WAH NIDHI JI MEINU KEHNA CHAUGA KI MEIN BHI QUATA KE KHILAF HOON LEKIN JISS KE WAJHE SE YE BANNA PARA USKO JAAN LETE TAU ACCHA HOTA. AAP JIS COLLEAGE MEIN STUDY KI HAI WO YAHA MATLAB LKO KE SAB SE REPUTED AUR MEHGE COLLEAGE HAI TAU NATURALLY AAP KE PASS ACHE KNOWLEAGE KI PAHUCH HOGI LEKIN YE SAB KI BASS KI BAAT NAHI..........AUR FIR RAHI BAAT MERIT KI TAU MEIN SAFF KAHUNGA KI USKE SATH YE RESERVATION NA INSAFFI KARTA HAI..........LEKIN AGAR ISSE HAATA DIYA TAU FIR KISI AUR KE SATH NA INSAFFI HO JAYGE.........AUR YE JUSTICE NAHI HOGA..........AGAR AAP KUCH AUR BAAT KERNA CHATI HAI TAU AAP KA ISS THREAD MEIN AUR VIOEW KI INTAZAR KARUNGA.............MY LUCKNOW DOLL............PLZZZ NARAJ NAKO HONA.

[Rishi Soumya]

We dont need a quota system..If we study well and hav confidence in ourselves then no one can stop us and we are sure to do well.....

[Rishi Soumya]

Thanks Gum...

[bohra_ajay]

Quota... its like imposing POTA (a Criminal Law for Terrorists)

on Students and there future and in the growth path of India.

I m not in opposing of Quota system we are a big country with a lot of diversity but then the reservations should be based on economic status and the merit. not the Caste. Pandit NEhru Said no to Reservations in 1961, Cheif of the Committee the creaters of Indian Constition Dr. Bhemro Ambedkar raised his voice in Parliament then to not avail reservations on caste basis. He himself belonged to backward class. his statement was by giving reservations u are pushing us back.

Its all the game of Chair Race. The greed for being Prime minister and to get his own place in Congress party and current government. Plan of Arjjun Singh.

In Madhya Pradesh, where i belong and the first REservations were provided back in 1980 by Indira Gandhi n Arjun Singh CM of MP then, nearly 1 Lac Reserved Government openings r empty waiting for the appropriate candidate and the eligible candidates of general class are looking for jobs.

this is what is happening.

Y not the not of schools and basic education be provided to the backward class, SC/ST for thier better ment and to bring them in mainstream.

Y not the Primary Language in the education system be hindi which is most understood, spoken and used by Indian Poeple.

There are so many projects running for primary education but no body cares to look and check if the projects r benefitting the poeple for whom it is meant. Only false and manipulated data is provided to public on the name of "Right of knowledge".

And one more thing guys how many of us are working to help teach the backward class, how many of the IT guys, management students are ready to work in villages. When these Doctors who are protesting are asked to work in villages they start protesting.

How many of us go for Voting on Voting Day. We treat that as national Holiday oppurtunity provided to njoy.

All we need today is Mohan Bhargavs (those who have watched "Swades" know what i m talking abt) to build India. We will never need any such Governement or Politicians who intend to divide us.

Theres a lot behind this Quota thing.

Think and act.

[indian_groom]

yes mr ajay bora..............your views is awesome...........well the all who goes up in carrer is must think to help poors..........but they all still thinking for himself..........and this type of attitue  never change india..........first doctors goes and work in villeges..........IT proffestional gives free knowleage and provide study throw their sources.........well mujhe accha lagega ki aap jaise kai log aage aaye aur aapne villeages mein kaam se kaam holidays mein kaam kare..........its increase your life yaar...........mere ko jab time milta hai mein le jata hoon apna computer aur apne villeage garib logo phadata hoon...........unki curocity aur jo khusi dekh ke sukun milta hai aur kisi aise baat ko jaan ke jisspe believe nahi hoga kitna khush hote hai uska andaza nahi laga sakta issko ek bar kar ke dekho maddat isme wo taqat hai ki aap kabhi zindagi mein dukhi nahi ho sakte...........mein janta hoon....meine mehsos kiya hai isliye baata raha hoon.