shadi-shuda yoindians pay attention

by bekarar on June 05, 2008, 11:43:39 AM
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Talat
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«Reply #45 on: June 17, 2008, 04:11:42 PM »
kai baar yun bhi hota hai ki is duniya me jin baaton ka log bahoot bura maan lete hain hume un baaton se koi pareshani nahi hoti jabki wo baat jise sab choti si baat kah-ke hawa me uda dete hain...hume itni boori lag jaati hai ke bardasht ke bhi bahar ho jati hai.........


Nice thread Bekarar  Applause

Iss baat ka shadi-shuda hone na hone se to koi farq nahin padta......Dil ki baat keh di aapne...Hairan ho jati hoon main jab dekhti hoon ki dunya kitne araam se kisi baat ko nazar andaaz kar deti hai jo mere liye bohot hi takleef ki wajah ho..magar kai baar samajh nahin aata ki kisi baat pe itna toofaan kyun uth raha hai jo meri nazar main ek maamooli baat hai......magar baat emotions ki hai...har insaan kisi situation main alag tarah se react karta hai...hum nahin keh sakte ki hum theek hain aur wo galat....wo insaani fitrat pe depend karta hai ki kis baat ko kaun kaise leta hai..har insaan apne aap main sensitive aur emotional hota hai...magar kuch logon ko apne emotions pe zyada ikhtiyar hota hai....


kya aapko aisa lagta hai ke aapke emotional nature ki wazah se aap apne partner se behtar talmel nahi bana pa rahe ya some time you feel uncomfertable with your partner inspite of loving her /him.....please vote

Shaadi ke 7 months hue hain...magar ek baar bhi aisa feel nahin hua ki mere extra-sensitive nature ki wajah se mujhe apne partner se koi chot mili ho...Infact, har baar aisa laga ki ye shakhs mujhko itni achchi tarah kaise samajh leta hai Usual Smile .......Aur sach yeh bhi hai ki ek lamha bhi aisa nahin ki apne partner ke sath uncomfortable laga ho.... Usual Smile

Jahan tak poetry ki baat hai...he always encourage me to write better...He is my best (or worst  Winking) critic  icon_flower
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Pooja
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«Reply #46 on: June 17, 2008, 05:42:53 PM »
Nice to see your comments here Celmira!!
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jasbirsingh
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«Reply #47 on: January 20, 2009, 10:09:02 AM »
Yaha kya chal raha hai JI .....

why should shadi shuda pay attentions ?

PEHLEY WOH HUMPEH ATTENTION PAR RAKHTI HAI
ABB AAP BHI HAMEY ATTENTION PAR RAKH RAHEY HO
YAHA KYA MAAJRA CHAL RAHA HAI
KU SAB HAMEY HI SIRF SULI PAR CHADNEY KOH KEH RAHEY HO


JASBIR SINGH
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HumTum
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«Reply #48 on: January 21, 2009, 12:25:24 PM »
Very nice topic to discuss. Mein bhi iss discussion mein hissa lene ki aarzu rakhta hoon. I have read all the posts and somehow felt that there are many bits and pieces. So I am gathering all the topics and try to express my feeling on that.

Topics:

-   What are emotions (by Pooja)
-   Poetry and married life (by Bekraar)
-   Eastern / Western culture plus emotions ( by Syed)
-   Sensitive and understanding partner (by Talat)

NB – Please feel free to add if I missed any topic.

Ok – lets discuss.   

1 – What are emotions?

An emotion is a mental and physiological state associated with a wide variety of feelings, thoughts, and behavior. Emotions are subjective experiences, or experienced from an individual point of view. Emotion is often associated with mood, temperament, personality, and disposition. Emotions can be categorized by their duration. Some emotions occur over a period of seconds (e.g. surprise) where others can last years (e.g. love). No definitive taxonomy exists.
A related distinction is between the emotion and the results of the emotion, principally behaviours and emotional expressions. People often behave in certain ways as a direct result of their emotional state, such as crying, fighting or fleeing. Yet again, if one can have the emotion without the corresponding behaviour then we may consider the behaviour not to be essential to the emotion.
So, to sum up – every living creature on this planet is born with emotions. Let’s talk about human beings. Infants have emotions (stronger than adults) i.e. an infant won’t feel happy/secure/satisfied to any person’s hands but his/her mother. That’s called emotions. Now, it depends on our childhood that how strong our emotions are and in which areas. The development of emotions are really depends on the environment in which you spend your childhood.   
2 - Poetry and married life?
Well, I would say poetry CAN affect your relationship. Words have so much power that can drive your mind like crazy. By listening or reading the words, you develop feelings and we have already said that feeling are emotions. I will write few examples on that.
-   Adolf Hitler had the power of the words by which he used to inspire the people. This caused world war.

-   We had so many freedom fighters in India and they inspired people by their words to fight for freedom.  i.e. “Sir Firoshi ki tammana ab hamare dil mein hai, dekhna hai zor kitna baju-e-qatil mein hai”. So many people inspired by these words and became freedom fighters.
-   What about Jihadis? Some people use the power of the words to inspire others to fight for Jihad and sacrifice their life. 
These were just few examples but let’s talk about poetry and how this affects the relationship. Well with the personal experience, I would say it affects so much.
For example~: once my other-half said that I don’t treat her parents the same way as I treat mine. So, instead of arguing with her, i kept quiet. Not because I am very understanding ect but I remembered one sher “Chalo ab yeh bhi hunar aazmate hai, tum teer azzmao hum jigar azzmate hai”. Then after a while she understood and felt that she was wrong. So, if I would have argued with her when she said that then we could have big fight. Here poetry affected the relationship in a good way.
Now one bad example: I drink a lot and when my other-half say why don’t you stop drinking. I always remember one Ghazal and say to her “Sharaab cheez hi asei hai na chodi jaye yeh mere yaar ke jasei hai na chodi jaye”. So, we end up with fights. Now you could say that it is an excuse for not stop drinking. But how I developed that excuse? Of-course by listen that Ghazal. The power of the words.
There are so many other examples I have but it will take ages to write.

To be continued ……
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Talat
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«Reply #49 on: January 22, 2009, 06:18:46 PM »
Nice post HumTum...we'll wait for the next one.
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jasbirsingh
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«Reply #50 on: January 22, 2009, 06:25:27 PM »
very interesting HUMTUM .... waiting to hear more from you

Jasbir Singh
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Rajesh Harish
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«Reply #51 on: January 22, 2009, 06:47:00 PM »
Really interesting. You have devoted a lot of time to this and please keep writing and let others enjoy.
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HumTum
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«Reply #52 on: January 23, 2009, 10:42:35 AM »
Thank you so much Talat Ji,  Jasbir Ji n Rajesh Ji for taking the time to read my thoughts. As promised, I am back with more stuff Usual Smile 

Ok – So, we were saying that the words have so much power which can influence people. Now, one can say why only poetry can affect the relationship why not ordinary words. Well, the power is within the words and consequently in the poetry which make of words. So, then why poetry can affect so much then the ordinary words? I would say: this is the way to expressing. In poetry, the words are put together or used in such a way that it contain so much power which can impact your mind your thoughts your thinking. Let’s take one of the examples which I have mentioned earlier. So, you will feel the difference between the ordinary lines and poetry.

“Hamare ander ab marne ki asha jag chuki hai. Chalo dekhte hai ke unki bahoon mein kitna zor hai“

Or

:Sir firoshi ki tammna ab hamare dil mein hai,
Dekhna hai zor kitna bajuz-e-qatil mein hai:

This same thing has been spoken in those two different lines but the impact of the second phrase is much higher than the first. All, I am trying to say is that the words which are used and make poetry would have much power than the ordinary ones. So, if you are a Shayar then you will think differently on a particular matter then those persons who are not Shayar. That is what Talat ji has said earlier that sometime a thing might be “normal” for her but it can drive others mad. Because she is a Shayar, she has developed her thoughts in different way.

Having said all of this, I would also like to mentioned that it is true that a relationship can be affected if a partner is Shayar but it also depends what kind of Shayar he/she is. Let’s take an example: if a person is a Shayar and always write poems in “Dard” then his/her thoughts, thinking would be completely different then the one who write on “Ishq”. Let’s say two Shayars are walking in Jungle. One who always write on Dard and other on Ishq. They both see a flower in the middle of a jungle. The one who always write on Ishq would normally say:

“Veeraniyo  mein ik phool khila dekha to dilbhar
Mujhko tere nazuk se hoonthoon ki yaad aayi”

And the other would normally say:

:Tu kyu veraniyo mein akela khada hai ‘e phool
Kya tujhko bhi koi chod gya hai meri trah:

So, now one question will stand – how one make his/her interest to write in a particular area? All I can say is: it depends on the circumstances in which you were when you started writing poetry and also it depends on your childhood. In which circumstances you grew up and developed your emotions/feelings/thoughts and thinking.



3 – Eastern / Western culture and emotions.

Every culture has its own values and thoughts. You can not say that Eastern culture is correct or Western. If you are living in or coming from Eastern of course you will say that our eastern culture is much better than the western. The reason is you are grew up in Eastern culture and you won’t be able to understand the values if western culture. Your thinking on one particular matter would be totally different then the western people. I would like to describe this in an example.

I am from eastern culture and my other half is from western. Sometimes we both feel that our thinking on a particular matter is different. One very simple example –


To be continued …..

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«Reply #53 on: January 23, 2009, 12:16:41 PM »
hum-tum aapne itna achche se sab padha hai aur likha hai ki padhne me aur fir padh-kar sochne me bhi aanand aa raha hai.....bahoot gahrai se aapne sab socha hai....hats of to you dear
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