Is YoIndia moving in Right direction ?

by khumaar on June 25, 2011, 11:27:01 AM
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Is Yoindia moving in right direction

well this can be a important question for any poetry site.
Right direction mainly depends on one thing and that is by
FOLLOWING PRINCIPLES OF POETRY.

i dn have any complaints for any body rather i always try to focus on concept and as a old member i kept giving my views.

mujhe jo baaten kahni thi wo maine kafi samay pehle post ki yahan tak ki monitor section me bhi lekin admin ne us par dhyaan nahi dia,mujhe isse koi fark nahi padta lakin unka ya kahna ki main reply karunga khaaskar aise muddon par jo site ke hit ke hon,aur is baat ko aaj do saal hone wale hain unhe fursat nahi mil saki.

ye sab cheezen kya darshati hain kahin genuine poets/poetess are being cheated by such remarks and behaviour.

main members,mods ko bilkul bhi dosh nahi dunga halaki main admin ko bhi dosh nahi dena chahta lekin aisi kya majboori hai jo wo sites par rahte hue bhi sites par khud post nahi kar sakte.

Point no 1 hum baat karen agar watan forum ki to aisa lagta hai site ko watan maan lia gaya.
ye kitni ochhi baat hai,hum kaise Bharat ko kisi site ya kisi aur cheez se dekh sakte hain.main aapse poochhta hun ki kya aisi vichardhara se likhi gayi poems sahi maayne me patriotic poems kahlaayengi.

Point no 2 Main maanta hun ki kai log ache dosts hain kuch usse badhkar bhi hain aur main bhi dil se sabko dost hi maanta hun lakin hum Rab ya bhagwaan ki parastish me kisi insaan ko kaise la sakte hain.Aap hi batayen ki kya aisi vichaardhara se likhi parastish poem sahi nmaayne me us category me aa sakti hai? insaan simit hai bhagwaan asimit hai is tarah se kahin hum viewers ko ghalat message to nahi dete.

Point no 3 usi tarah se maine appeal kia tha ki tanzia forum me social forum bhi add karen jisse politics vegarah aur jo aam mudde hain un par bhi tanz likha ja sake.lekin wo maturity bhi dekhne ko nahi mili kyunki hum dekh sakte hain ki tanzia shayari ko sirf bhadaas shayari me hi rakh dia gaya hai.


Point no 4 usi tarah se admin front page par logon ki posts diplay karte hain jiska base sirf particular forums me post karna hai.kya hum is baat ko achi posts ya poems ka base maan sakte hain.We can see many a times ppl posts there just to paas a message in their poem and hence such trends follows.well mujhe koi issue nahi hai lekin jab kisi genuine poet poetess ka post apne aap hi usme chala jata hai then some ppl start targetting the posts aur is tarah se jane anjaane me hum kisi ko hurt bhi kar sakte hain.

Is tarah se jane anjane me groupism badhta hai aur naye members acha feel nahi karte.

Point no 5 isi tarah se forum ko bhi ek hi simple font colour me rakha gaya hai jo ki dekhne me ajeeb sa lagta hai, i mean aap ko koi forum dhoodhne me dikkat aati hai, lekin phir wohi problem ki chunki 10-15 colours hain aur koi na koi kisi khaas colour me likhta hai par iska matlab ye to nahi ki forum ko alag alag colour me ya kisi colour me nahi kia ja sakta.

Point no 6 isi tarah forums me bhi zyada participation nahi hota,activities nahi hoti.

issues bahut saare hain lekin kahne par log ghalat le lete hain,ki site crisis me hai vagerah 2.

Point no 7 lekin jo buniyaadi cheezen hain aur jo ho sakti hain  unhe kyun nahi implemnent kia ja sakta.aur agar nahi kia ja sakta to ise members ko bata dena chahiye so that one should not expect good things here,so that one should never give his/her suggestions.
One has to see whether site is respecting the members,poets,poems,posts their creations or knowingly,unknowingly these things are being ignored.
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«Reply #1 on: June 25, 2011, 11:51:21 AM »
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kaash Ji, Kaash main Aapki Koi baat samaj paata..agar aap kuch Elaborate kar sake to mujhe kuch baatein Samaj mein bhi aaye..ke aakhir galat kya ho raha hai??
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«Reply #2 on: June 25, 2011, 12:20:00 PM »
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dear maine ye kisi ko samjhane ke lie nahi likha kyunki yahan sabhi aklmand hain,koi samajhjna chahe to ek baar me hi padhne par samajh me aa sakta hai aur koi na samajhna chaahe to kabhi bhi nahi.well maine points wise likh dia hai
Khwaish bro bura mat manna but u are here since sep2006 how many posts have you posted in 'user support and suggestion forum'.
Ya last post aapne kab ki thi,shayad aapko sabko kuch perfect lagta ho but dear there is always room for improvement.
If possible pls suggest points regarding the same.

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Mere Dost, mere Bhai Kaashji,Main aapki iss baat se bilkul sehmat hoon ke "There is always a room for improvement" aur yeh baat aapne bilkul sach kahi ke maine shayad 1-2 baar hi user support & suggestion forum mein likha hai, Par Kaashji Insaan jab hi likhega jab usse iski zaroorat mehsoos ho..Bin Baat ke to Main iss Forum Mein Apne Threads Open Nahi Karunga..

Shayari-e-Watan Par Jo Aapne yeh sawaal uthaya, i m sorry to say woh baat abhi bhi samaj nahi aayi..

Shayari Parastish mein aisa kab hua hai ke kisi ne uss thread mein kisi insaan ko bhgwaan kaha aur usse related poetry likhi ho??

Haan...Main yeh maanta hoon ke kuch changes zaroori  hai jaise Sabse pehle hum sab ko milkar aisi Kuch Funding karni Chahiye Ke Yoindia mein Yeh Jo Aajkal Problems chal rahi hai Khatam ho..

Aur related to poetries, Kisi Ek Yoindian Poet Ko "Poet Of the Week" banana chahiye voting se ke uss shaks ki har poetries Home page par diKhe aur log unhe padhe..
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«Reply #3 on: June 25, 2011, 12:38:54 PM »
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@Khumaar
I agree khwaish ji, I can be wrong but most of the time I am not able to fully understand what you are trying to say. It looks like you explain a lot in order to make it easy but it gets even more confusing.

Regarding my activity on Yoindia, I always post or comment when it is required. Other than that looks like you have lots of complaints from Yoindia Shayariadab but I can't help if I can't understand them properly. Also, there are few very important things which needs to be resolved and everyone knows about them, only after that we can think on other suggestions and problem.
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«Reply #4 on: June 25, 2011, 05:11:49 PM »
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Khumaar Sahaab Aadaab!

Janab muafi chahte hai chota muH badi baat kahne ke liye hum aapke jazboN ki kadar karte hai... Aur Masha Allah aap
yahaaN se sirf waqt guzaari ka hi nahi dil ka bhi rishta rakhte
haiN jaan kar badi khushi huyi..... Usual Smile

Janab Hum bhi Khawahish jee aur Admin sahaab ki baat se bilkul sehmat hai... Usual Smile

KyuN ke aapne jaise points kahe hai us hisab se samjh ne meiN kuch nahi aa raha hai ... Ke aap kia kah rahe hai, bus samajh itna aaya ke aapke jazbaat site ke hit ke liye hai... Usual Smile

Hum aapke jazbaatoN ko salaam karte haiN.. Usual Smile
Aise hi dil se dil ka rishta banaye rakhiye...

Khush O aabaad rahiye....
Khuda Hafez Usual Smile
         

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«Reply #5 on: June 27, 2011, 10:17:50 AM »
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Doston ye prashn kisi bhi poetry site ke direction aur attitude ko ispasht karte hain:

ARE WE WRITING POEMS IN GOOD SPIRIT

ARE WE PROMOTING EVERY TYPES OF POEMS

ARE WE PROMOTING OTHER LEGENDRY WORKS OF GREAT POETS AND POETESS.

DO WE GET INSPIRED BY THE GREAT POETRIES OF GREAT POETS AND POETESS.

DO WE KNOW THAT WRITING POETRY IS A RESPONSIBLE THING.

WHILE WRITING A POEM DO WE REALISE OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

DO WE KNOW THAT WHILE WRITING OUR PRIORITY SHOULD BE HEART NOT OUR MIND.

DO WE THINK THAT THROUGH OUR POEMS WE ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE POETRY WORLD.

ARE WE SATISFIED WITH OUR POEMS

DO WE WANT TO IMPROVE,DO WE ANALYSE OUR GROWTH AS A POET OR POETESS.

I think undoubtedly everyone agress that broadly, these are the points which decide the direction of the poetry.

this is a very important infact most importnt thing for any site paricularly poetry site whetther it is on right track or not.

and it is must needed that a type of analysis should be done to any site and when it has crossed one million posts.

bahut saare issues aise hain jinke baaren me sochna aawashyak hai jaise aakhir kyun gine chune members baar baar nayi id's banate hain,here 48000 topics have been posted and more than
41000 members are registered.Is it not sounded negative?

aise bahut se issues hain jinpar sabhi ko apne vichaar dene chahiye agar site ka maqsad poetry hi hai.


but unfortunately aisa yahan kabhi nahi hua, mere hisaab se Ricky ki kuch posts ko chhod kar maine aur posts is wishay me yahan nahi dekhin,infact Ricky ka bhi participation doosri posts me nahi dekha.

So,in a way YoIndia does not analyse its work and which must be done because if site invites a lot of members by saying that it is the largest poetry site than it is the duty of the site to see that every types of poems should be
noticed,particularly poems which are being written in good spirit.

doston everyone who is associated with the site believes in its benefit and i believe no one wants to harm it in any way.

sometimes we think that we have contributed to the poetry on the contrary we would have been spoiling the poetry knowingly and unknowingly by not improving the stndard of thinking behind poems or by continous writing poems baselessly.

Ho sakta hai koi english bahut acha bolta ho lekin agar wo abusive words istemaal karega to use asabhya hi mana jayega.Usi tarah agar hume kavita ke kuch taur tareeke aa gaye lekin hum swachh mann mastishk se likhne ki jagah
bhadaas ya nafrat ya bina base ke likhenge to wo poem achi category me nahi aayegi,even wo achi spirit se likhi poems ko dhumil karegi.I mean it will harm the good poetry.

is tarah se sahi spirit me na likhne ki vajah se aisi poems ki tadaad bhale bahut zyada ho jaye lekin unka contribution poetry ko na ke barabar hi hota hai,isliye ye zaruri hai ki hum iska dhyaan rakhen.

Baaki agar aisa trend jisme site ko watan samjhen hum ya parastish me ye dekhen ki kis insaan ki parastish me likha gaya.ya doosri site se aaye member ki poems ko is nigaah se dekhen ki ye doosre watan ka hai ya uski likhi poems ke
base ko nakaar kar apna banaya trend thopen to isme kuch bura nahi.bus is baat ko admin ko chhiye ki main page par display kare so that bhole ya naye members isi tarah ki posts karen bekaar me achi posts karke site ka aisa mahual kharaab
na karen.Kabhi font ke dwra kabhi title ke dwara hi poem likhne ko poetry samkjhen.kisi ne dooosre ki achi poetry par reply bhi kar dia
to use discard karen aur groupism ke sahare doosron ke manobal ko toden aur is tarah site ka hit karne ki jagah ahit kar jaayen.

doston kya hum sach me aisa chahte hain,nahi


i think hamari spirit aur intention aur equalism ka bhaaw hi site ka mahaul aur direction tay karta hai.

ek spirit sahi nazarie se lene par bhaichara,dosti,wishwaas,ekta ko badhati hai jabki ghalat nazarie se lene par shak,ghalatfahmi aur groupism etc ko badhati hai.

ek bahut hi mahatvapoorna baat ye hai ki hume apas me bachkana soch se upar aana chahiye khaaskar maine dekha hai ki jaise kuch dost hai yahan apas me aur kuch usse badhkar.
To ye jo usse badhkar hain wo kavita ke dwara baat cheet karte hain hum sabki wishes unke saath hain lekin dikkat tab hoti hai jab ye apne hisaab ka hi mahaul chahte hain ya inke partner ne kisi ki posts par reply kar dia to ye likhne waale ke peeche pad jaate hain.
as if ki pyar,mohabat ke ilawa poetry ka matlab kuch hota hi nahi hai.
parantu aisa nahi hai poetry ke inke ilawa bhi kai vibhaag hote hain.aur zaruri nahi ki likhne wale ka intention ghalat ho.

yani agar koi acha poet hai lekin usne ishk forum me post kar di to ye dekhna ki ye kiske lie likhi gayi hai kitni bachkana soch ko darshati hai aur usse bhi zyada aisi poems ko discard karna hamari kaisi swatantra soch ka parichayak hai.
to is tarah ki narrowmindedness se ubarna hoga aur sankeerta ke chasme ki jagah udaarta ka chasma lagana chahiye.
Main to aise logon se aise doston se yehi appeal karunga ki bhaia shadi wadi karke aao aur phir poetry karo ya phir agar poetry kar rahe ho to insecure feel na karo,is tarah se doosron ke khilaaf ghalat soch ko haawi na hone do,kyunki is tarah se hum doosron ko hurt kar sakte hain,poetry ko hurt kar sakte hain.

Is tarah se hum apni power/authority ka ghalat use kar sakte hain.Hamari power jo site ke construction me lagni chahiye destruction me lag sakti hai.Infact main aise logon se anurodh karunga jo sirf prem ki vajah se likhte hain ki bhaia prem ko badhawa den aur sabhi tarah ki poetry ke liye site hai aisa samjhen.Baki pls dn take my views otherwise.

i think hume site ka hit sabse upar rakhna chahiye.yahan sabhi dost hain,kum se kum main apna ye intention to ispasht kar dun.
Kyunki meri tarah aise members jo sabhi ko dost samajhte hain bahut saare hain aur unka main uddeshya poetry hota hai lekin is tarah ki soch me ghirkar unhe likhne ka sahi mahaul nahi milta aur we phir regular nahi aate.

Doston islie hume is baat ka poora khyaal rakhna chahiye ki hamari bhavukta hamari takat bane hamari kamzori nahi.
Site ka bhi emotionalism site ki strength bane site ko mazbut kare,members badhaye,har tarah ki poetry ko encourage kare na ki site ki weakness ban jaye aur iska khyaal sabhi members ko rakhna chahiye.




mr khumaar ,

  i have gone through all the conversations and your valuable and strong statements. But with due respect, unfortunately i don't agree in all of your statements leaving few.

  sir, we believe all the associated members to this forum are intelligent, have their own thoughts,their own lifestyle and their own move. this yoindia is an entertainment forum / plateform and not a career oriented site. people come here to write there poem, feelings and not to teach anybody etc etc. For getting much more information related to respective field one's is well aware where to move. A lot of sites  and outlets are there to acquire informations and collect knowledge of one's interest.you can not enforce any one as you told.
     ok , just for a second i agree with you, now kindly tell me who will set the norm.

mr khumaar i don't infact elaborate this issue but i personally felt that you posts are not being appriciated by most of the people. have you ever realized why???

 i am sorry to say but once again monitor and admin cannot force any one to do as per its desired. hardly what will happen it will take the privilege to lock the very person to come on this forum. will this work to resolve the issue.

 so leave the tension.and be happy

        ignore my words if they hurt you
  
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«Reply #6 on: June 27, 2011, 11:08:48 AM »
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Dear, its gud you agree with some points and you disagree with some points but you not only personalised the issue you did not contribute yr own points also.

infact i have written because i think as a member its our duty to share our feelings and views.

mujhe isse koi fark nahi padta ki meri baaten kisi ko achi lage na lagen lekin main aisa maanta hun ki jo bhi aapko lage aapko likhna chahiye.main bhi kai site se juda hun aur poems mera mahaz shauk hain lekin hume acha mahaul banane ke lie prayaasrat rahna chahiye,so that members who think like this try to stay on Yo.

Main maanta hun Yoindia me abhi har tarah ke readers nahi hain,main ye bhi maanta hun ki yahan adhiktar logon dwara ek tarah ka trend follow hota hai islie jo us tarah ki posts nahi karega use utna appreciate nahi kia jayega.
Lekin usi ko improve karne ke lie maine yahan mention kia hai.

Zaruri nahi ki hum apne lie hi kuch likhen hum doosre members ke lie bhi apne vichaar rakh sakte hain.i have tried to do that.



khumaar sahab,


you are old member of this site and you are well aware of the situations.
  so far the matter concern about my suggestion i am still child for this forum. and as i said above this is an entertainment site. we all people wondering with other problem in life. who will spare the creative time in order to improve ( as you said) the qauality of YOINDIA. I like YOINDIA very very much as it is.I also viewed some other people are also giving poking finger in other issue.

 ok i would like to know what are the improvements or rectifications you are looking ahead.

 sir, could you please hereby specify to my understnading .
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«Reply #7 on: June 27, 2011, 12:44:07 PM »
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Mere maanna hai ki site par user se sambandhit posts par admin ko apne views zarur dene chahiye,aur agar monitor section me posts ki gayi tab to first priority par unpar apne views share karne chahiye otherwise there is no use of being a monitor.
koi apne vichaar likhta hai usme uska time,skill lagta hai wo yehi sochke likhta hai ki isse site ko fayda hoga parantu jab aisi posts par admin apne vichaar bhi na den to isse kya pata chalta hai,infact admin pm me that aapne bahut posts kie hain i will definitely share my views lekin do saal ho jane par bhi us par kuch nahi bola jata,obviously any one will get hurt by this behaviour and feel cheated.aakhir jab bade ka aisa attitude hoga to chhote to use follow hi karenge,agar in issues ki wo apni site ke lie sahi nahi maante to koi baat hi nahi ise bata den.

here are some posts which i posted in monitor sections,however some members shared their views  i really thank them but admin did not notice any one of them.main ye isiliye posts kar raha hun ki agar site ka maksad poetry nahi to use ispasht kia jaaye, Admin should tell us what he wants to do here,what type of future is he expecting of Yoindia,does he not like such issues related for the benefit of the site?



Kya hum poems ke contents se zyada poem ke title ko tavajjub dete hain

Kya jo acha likhne vale hain hum unhe promote kar rahe hain ya discourage kar rahe hain
Khaaskar tab jab vo hamare mitr jaise nahi, I mean vo aapse telephonic dosti nahi rakhte,
Ya khud hi unka nature reserve hai.
At this note I would like to tell you ki ye sach hai I dn believe in Pm’s a lot
Varna main janta hun main bhi isi me indulge hoke rah jata,dost to bahot saare bante hi
Par shayad kahin kavitaayen likhna kum kar deta.
Ho sakta hai main apne co monitors ke saath bhi pm na karne ki vajah se
Galat hon but kya itna kaafi nahi ki poet ya poetress  jo likh rahe hain unse
Unka unke jazbaat ka unke tasavvur ka taarruf mile.
Is it necessary ki pehle hum dosti Karen phir poems likhen just for the sake of replies,
Or providing pleasure to frnds.aur is tarah hum is dharna ko badhate chale jaayen
Ki pehle jo hi site pea aye vo pm’s vaigarah Karen.aur kahin aage jakar hum
Dosti aur farz i mean monitorship me jahan ho sakta hai hume lage dost galat hai phir bhi Farz ko thukrakar dosti ka saath den,


   
Arrangements of Right Poems In Child Boards of Categories of Forum

there are child boards in each category of forums like Punjabi,Gujrati,Bengali etc.
most of the poems are correctly posted in those subsections/child boards,but many are misposted also.It is been a long time for those posts/poems and they are still lying there.i saw so thought to mention here.if arranged they can be read more by the readers also as any reader/user who search poem as per his/her language will search in that category and it will be comfortable for users/readers if they are arranged in right category


Can we have subcategories in category i.e sub forums in forums

doston maine ye dekha ki jaise hum kisi forum me jate hain i mean kisi ek category me say mobile sms and jokes,to kya hum is tarah ke subcategories unme stichy bana sakte hain jaise alag alag tarah ke jokes alag alag mauke par likhe gaye hain,like sports jokes,sana banta jokes,lalu ji jokes,pathan jokes,sardar ji jokes to unhe vahan pe ye dikhayen ki vo yoindian ke hi stichy subforums hain aur unme koi bhi member apni pasandeeda jokes post kar sakta hai,isse jo alag se bhi share karna chahen vp karte rahen lekina aise kuch dino ke baad vo thread hat jaate hain i mean peeche ke pages me chale jate hain aur member/readers ko dhoondh ke padhne me pareshani hoti hai,is tarah se hum aur systematic bhi forum ko dikha/dekh sakenge.
i think aisa har forum me hum kar sakte hain.
usi tarah se share misc shayari me naamcheen shayaron/poet/poetress ke jo poem hum share karte hain unhe bhi stichy bana den jisse koi bhi asaani se vahan padh sake aur is tarah se forum ki value bhi badhegi.
isi tarah se son section me bhi hum kar sakte hain,jisme agar jo koi particular choice of song share karna chahta hai,halanki everyone is free to create his/her own thrd but agar koi bane hue stichy choices me share karna chahta hai jisse ki us particular forum ke sub forum systematic lagen ya aise bhi to kar sakta hai.




i start my comment from your first points.
  sir ,as you mentioned about good poetries or nazm or gazal whatever, it sounds difficult to say which is good and which is very good and outstanding etc etc.i am not considering or assuming here that any poem is bad because it is associated with one's sentiment yess he or she might have not better idea to write in rhythem. but they can grap according to their ability gradually if appreciated them.Here about the scholar people who write wonderful poems few of them are urdu scholars and there ghazal or nazam are out of reach to undersanding by others then how you expect those poems are to be appreciated much.

 sir dont take me otherwise i am not advocating YOINDIA. similarly other issues are sustaing and admin or monitor what i understand come forward. and star with  frequent intervening then people will leave the site.

 yess they can monitor to no abusing, no coarse language should be used.


other issues as mentioned  in your clause shows that you intend to control YOINDIA governing bodies.

i may wrong in my perception but your statements giving me the very picture as i said.
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«Reply #8 on: June 28, 2011, 10:07:22 AM »
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Dear you said you start with first point but did not cover any of them.
Well, i agree with your points that there are not too many ranges of readers and therefore every types of poems can not be recognised.

But dear besides this there are lots of issues which many ppl have mentioned here i.s at the site but every time because of arrogant attitude issues are not being sorted out and main reason is the attitude and ego problem.I dn want to finger out admin or any body, but i have suggested my views only.

and dn say me sir i am a ordinary member here but i think a member is more important than any one kyunki monitor ya admin members ki vajah se hi site par hain members unki vajah se nahi hai.

kal maine yahan par monitor section ki kuch posts yahan posts kari thi unka reply dene ke bajaay admin ne mujhe monitor section se hi out kiya hai main iska abhaar deta hun unhe kyunki monitor banake aap munh band karwayen aisa mujhe katai pasand nahi.Thanks for that.

kya apne vichaar rakhna bhi ghalat hai.Isi tarah se Yoindia se kai log chale gaye,shuru se lekar ab tak yoindia ki jaisi progress honi chahiye vaisi inhi vajah se nahi hui.

I think agar admin apne vichaar monitor section me bhi share nahi kar sakte to iska ek positive reason ye bhi ho sakta hai ki wo nihayat hi busy rahte hon to aisi condition me jo aur regular aur dedicatd mmembers/monitors hain unhe kyun nahi promote karte wo,so that members ki baaten unke views par apni raay rakhi ja saken.

many dedicated members/monitors are here jinme sophi,mann,khwahish inhe kaafi samay se main active dekh raha hun.
inke poetntial ka kya sahi use Yo kar paya agar nahi to kyun nahi?
usi tarah se roja,angel inhone kaafi samay tak acha contribution kiya iske saath celmira and pooja halanki zyada nahi aati but they were also taking very good care of Yo.

Infact main to ye bhi kahunga ki sajid jaise members jinhone site ke lie kaafi kuch kia aur abhi kar rahe hain unke potential
aur jazbe ka saupyog karna chahiye,sabhi ke beech me achi understanding ho sakta hai utni na ho lekin sabhi site ka hissa hain aur admin ke paas authority hai ki wo members ke potential ko pehchane,appreciate kare ya ignore karen.Members ke beech me behtar understanding ya misunderstanding ke peeche hamari site ko chalane ka maksad hota hai.

Agar poetry ko badhawa dena chahenge to members aur unke views hamesha hi appreciate kie jayenge agar kuch aur intention hai to ache se ache views bhi darkinaar kar die jate hain.It all depends on the intention of admin.


mera ye bhi maanna hai ki alag alag forum ki resposibility alag alag monitors ko deni chahiye jisse unki accountability ho khaaskar vo jo hamesha hi active rahte hon.

Aur koi bhi step uthane se pehle kum se kum monitor section me
us par charcha kare,jaise site crisis wali baat thi admin ne without monitor section ko confidence me lie post bana di, phir monitors ka fayda kya agar unke vichaaron ko hum mahatva nahi den.




DEAR MR KHUMAAR,

 I ALREADY SENSED THE SMELL OF YOUR ANGER TOWARDS YOINDIA BUT REASON WAS NOT CLEAR TO ME.SIR, AS YOU SAID IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSION THAT YOU ARE LEAST BOTHER ABOUT THINGS MOVING AROUND SO WHY DO YOU PUT YOUR NOSE SO DEEP. FIRST THING IS THAT YOUR EGO HURT WITH THIS BEHAVIOUR AND SECONDLY,YOUR ANGER TOWARDS YOUR CONTEMPARY MEMBERS.REALLY I DONT FIND ANY REASON TO KEEP A COLD FIGHT AMONG US.

 THIS YOINDIA IS NOT AN INSTITUTE WHERE ONE HAS TO FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO GET ADMISSION IN IT AND AFTER COMPLETING A SET PERIOD HE  OR SHE IS AWARDED A DEGREE OR DIPLOMA AND HE HAS TO MOVE IN REAL WORLD IN SEARCH OF HIS RESPECTIVE PLACE.

FRANCLY TELLING, I HAVE VIEWED SEVERAL SITE SIMILAR TO YOINDIA AND FOUND THIS YOINDIA IS FAR BETTER THAN THOSE AND COLOURFUL.I DONT WANT TO MENTION THE NAME OF THOSE SITE AND NO INTENSION TO DEFAME THEM TOO.

YOU SEEM TO BE MORE EMOTIONAL. TRY TO CONTROL YOUR EMOTION AND DEAR SIR TO BECOME A GOOD MANAGER ONE SHOULD CONTROL HIS OR HER EMOTIONS IN EITHER CASE OR ELSE YOU WILL BE A LOOSER. THIS IS YOINDIA, HOW DO YOU MANAGE REAL WORLD.
SO FAR YOU HAVE MENTIONED THE NAME OF ALL RESPECTED MEMBERS THOSE HAVE GREAT CONTRIBUTION AND GOOD INFLUENCE TO GROW THIS SITE. OK, I DONT KNOW THEM PERSONALLY, THROUGH THEIR POEM I RECOGNIZE THEM ALL ARE OUTSTANDING.
BUT DEAR, YOU HAVE DISCRIMATE THEM AS PER YOUR RELATION WITH THEM. LOBBING AND GROUPING YOU WILL FIND EVERY WHERE EVEN IN THE INSTITUTE. SCHOOL, OFFICES. THE SAME FORMULA APPLIED- YOU SCRATCH MINE I WILL SCRATCH YOURS.

BE FLEXIBLE AND MEDIOCRE IN YOUR APPROACH OTHERWISE IN TODAY'S LIFE PEOPLE HAVE NO PATIENCE TO RESIST THINGS FOR A LONG.

ENJOY THE SITE. IT WILL IMPROVE GRADUALLY AND DON'T IMPOSE YOUR IDEALOGY TO IMPLEMENT THE THING AS SUGGESTED ORELSE YOU WILL RECEIVE THE SIMILAR REACTION NOT ONLY HERE ANY DEPARTMENT.

I AM SORRY WHAT I SAID AND I HAVE RESPECT OF YOU EMOTIONS TOO.

MOREOVER, THIS VERI SITE NOT GOVERNED BY RENOUNED FIGURE OG POETRY WORLD LIKE- JAVED AKHTAR, NIDA FAZLI, RAHAT INDAURI, AHMED FARAZ ETC ETC.

I AM CONCLUDING WITH THE HUMBLE REQUEST THAT ENJOY THE THREAD DONT BLAME ANYONE.AND DONT BLEND BITTERNESS. ALL ARE WELL VERSED PEOPLE ARE ATTACHED TO THIS SITE AND ALL KNOW WHAT THEY WANT

 THANKS HAVE A NICE DAY

 
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«Reply #9 on: June 29, 2011, 12:20:34 PM »
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Dear Mr.MB

you have again divert the issues.

i have never target anyone but it seems from your words and your
replies as if you have thought that i am personally against anybody.i admire that you might have been a older member here and therefore proving your loyalty.its ok dear and i really appreciate this but pls grow up i mean pls see the things as per members point of view and then talk maturely points by points.
Everyone is cooperative and understands things positively and that is one of the reason i am sharing my views.
A member is sharing his views,if we can add its gud if we can not its ok.

We are here discussing some points which can be fruitful for yoindia and i have been making posts regarding it for a long time and many members became agree with those and contributed their views for the benefit of the site which in other way will be benefitting Poetry.


Thanks for your concern about YO INDIA. but the sentence you have used here for me looks ambiguous. I dont mind even if u call me a pet dog of YO india.

 Sir,
 the site has not hire my service to reply you.and i am not expecting any favour from the admin or any reward or medal. I just put my views as i entered in to this thread and saw the topic.

 I am very sorry if you have got hurt any more. Candidly, i am  not much concern and anxious about this site like you . So far the matter concern about old members to leave the site, i assume every one has their own engagements and responsibilities increases with times.Therefore ,they all might not be getting enough time to serve here.

 anyway I wish you all the best and thanks for you kind and serious concern about this site.

MAY GOD KEEP THIS YOINDIA ALWAYS ALIVE...!!!


 
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«Reply #10 on: July 04, 2011, 01:57:19 PM »
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@Khumaar

I am following this topic however I am finding it hard to comment because of two reasons :
1. I am very much busy in professional life, however still I come and check Yoindia.
2. The way you express your view is very inefficient method of expressing your point. I have already mentioned this in my previous post and again I am saying so. No doubt, you are trying to rectify but its not working. No offense, but still I have not gone through all of your posts in this topic, but have seen most of them.

In simple words,
When you come to and end of a post, you write in such a way that we lost track of your question, you starts with one thing and ends with other. Remember, I am not criticizing you but sharing the truth. I expect you to take positively.  I am seeing your posts from many years so I think I am not wrong about it.

However, I suggest you to do atleast following things to improve it.
1. Use fewer words, be brief as possible and to the point.
2. Always use one language ie. either Hindi / Urdu or English, never use mixture of all to express yourself.
3. Always read whatever you wrote before submitting it and read as if you are reading someone else.
4. Above all, start with basics, be short and clear, let people to react on them and when you find that people have grasped your point, then elaborate it further.

Hopefully you will take them as friendly advice and will try to follow them. You may take example of my post , ie. this one . I am trying to be clear as much as I can.
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«Reply #11 on: July 04, 2011, 02:16:56 PM »
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Now coming to your advices, as per my views and with past experience, having too many sticky posts is not a good idea, rather there is an alternative solution. I have shown one already in link below, now its upto membres to make it happening.

Some nice contribution for Patriotic Poetry at Yoindia Shayariadab

But,
From your posts, it looks like that we don't care for Yoindia or we do not want to promote quality poetry over Yoindia Shayariadab. I think you are ignoring the fact that I had promoted Language and Poetry School . The idea behind was to share knowledge of poetry and language with those who are not aware of it. Many members came forward but sadly didn't work out. Or in other ways, response was poor from members. Remember, we can encourage members to create a level of poetry but can't force them.

Also, in order to keep Yoindia Shayaridadab poetry specific, I restrained from adding other general sections on Yoindia Shayariadab, there are very few non-poetic sections of Yoindia. I instead made another community ie. eTI to do so. I had to start all over again , I could have used Yoindia which was already established but because I also believe in quality poetry, I took the harder way.

Other than that, may be you have overlooked posts like this

And again I would like to take attention towards the financial issue of  Yoindia Shayariadab. In all these years, it has grown big and active that now first priority is to make proper arrangements for resources Yoindia need so that we don't have to see "Temporarily Unavailable" message. I think it should be our first priority so that we can work easily in other departments.

And in last, I am always thankful to your suggestions and views. 
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