Why poetry is secondary over Yoindia ?Who is at fault ?

[Ricky]

Recently I made a most which ultimately led me to make this post here, actually the text you see below is part of that post which is splitted.

This is very sad to see that only those people bothers to read and replies on Yoindia if they they are familiar with author.  This means if there is a new person on Yoindia then hardly people will see his poetry because they don't know him. May be my work is not a quality work then at least give negative comments. I already said so that all negative or positive comments are welcome.

It is really disheartening, it just means that first I have to make friends on Yoindia and then only I should write here otherwise no one cares about your poetic work. I used to think that Yoindia is a place where people comes together who are somewhere poetic in nature or share same cause ie. Poetry but it appears its just a small scale social networking place where poetry is secondary. So its just dilemma for being poetry main concern over Yoinida.

I think it will be better if we turn Yoindia into some friendship and dating site then in that condition it won't look bad if poetry is considered secondary.

Lets see how many will dare to give their real opinion after reading it, I guess again it will be Celmira, Mayiha and Pooja ji only because only they are familiar to me on Yoindia so called Shayariadab, hence rest one can understand!

[Talat]

I am sorry to say that you are right !

Yahi mehssos hua hai ki zyadatar comments sirf wahin aate hain jahan thread starter known hai ya popular hai...warna 1-2 comments ke baad thread pichle pannon pe khote chale jaate hain........!!


Ummeed hi kar sakte hain log chit-chat/games aur known poets ke alaawa doosre poets ki taraf bhi dhyaan denge !

[bekarar]

This is very sad to see that only those people bothered to read and reply this post who know me. This means if there is a new person on Yoindia then hardly people will see his poetry because they don't know him. May be my work is not a quality work then at least give negative comments. I already said so that all negative or positive comments are welcome.

It is really disheartening, it just means that first I have to make friends on Yoindia and then only I should write here otherwise no one cares about your poetic work. I used to think that Yoindia is a place where people comes together who are somewhere poetic in nature or share same cause ie. Poetry but it appears its just a small scale social networking place where poetry is secondary. So its just dilemma for being poetry main concern over Yoinida.

I think it will be better if we turn Yoindia into some friendship and dating site then in that condition it won't look bad if poetry is considered secondary.

Lets see how many will dare to give their real opinion after reading it, I guess again it will be Celmira, Mayiha and Pooja ji only because only they are familiar me on Yoindia so called Shayariadab, hence rest one can understand!

ricky ji,
sabse pahle ek achchi rachna ke liye badhai.....
aapne ye kavita 6 Nov. ko likhi aur sirf do din ke baad aapka ye bayan sachmuch afsoso janak hai....
dusari baat ye ki aap khud dusare logon ki kitni kavitaon pe comment dete hain? kabhi aapne socha?
shayad nahi...
lekin fir bhi mai yahi kahunga ki achchi kavitaon ko comment mil hi jaate hain..lekin kam-s-kam ek week to dekhen...
aur han...yoindia ko shariadab  aap aur hum jaise log hi banate hai..kripya ise galat na samjhen.....aur dusare logon ki likhi shayri padhne ki aadat bhi banayen...

[Ricky]

Well, as per Yoindia I gave it enough time and only after I made that post. Regarding reading other people and replying there, well again it comes to very same point that first you need to get familiar with others else no one is going to bother about it. I hope you read this Some Guidelines
So I know how to get maximum out of a post on Yoindia. I am not denying your words.

But the fact is that a new person first need to reply a whole lot of poetry else do not expect replies other than few regular members of Yoindia.

As I gave you link, if you go through then you will understand that instead of posting all such here I could have just followed my own guidelines and just after 2-3 hours of making the post I could have received comments from almost all current active member of Yoindia.

Why poetry is not the priority among the general members of Yoindia ?, I guess this the reason we do not get much diversity over here as we are unable to recognize it.

[Pooja]

Ricky this is not only with new members... meri kitani he post hai jis main shayad he ek ya do reply mile ho... kai baar to mujhe likhne pada hai ki itne ### read hone ke bawjood sirf do reply.

Magar yah sari discussion hum chit chat ya yoindia support main kare to jayada acha hoga.

[Hashimoto]

MR. RICKY WHAT A CRITICAL TOPIC. I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN REGARDING POETRY.

THIS IS AN OPEN FORUM
MEMBERS ARE FREE TO DO ACCORDING TO THEIR TASTE
NEW MEMBERS TAKE SOME TIME TO ADJUST THEMSELVES
MONITORS MAY BE GOOD SUPPORTERS. ARE THEY GOOD POETRY TEACHERS?

(it just means that first I have to make friends on Yoindia and then only I should write here otherwise no one cares about your poetic work.) GOOD WORK OF A POET IS ALWAYS APPRECIATED, MANY MEMBERS DO COMMENT BUT THEY DON'T READ THE WHOLE WORK, THEY JUST ADD CLAPPINGS, WAH WAHS OR COMMONLY USED COMPLEMENTS.

I SUGGEST MAKE FRIENDS SO THEY WOULD WRITE IN REPLY TO YOUR WORK.

THINK COLLECTIVELY DON'T SAY "I DO THIS, I DID THAT", MOST OF THE MEMBERS EVEN SENIORS THINK A BIT SELFISH, MAYBE NOT, BUT WE SHOULD PRESENT A GENERAL THOUGHT.


CELMIRA AND POOJA YES YOU ARE CORRECT AT THAT, BUT THINK ABOUT ME,

[diya786]

THANKS FOR RAISING THIS TOPIC RICKY JI
EVEN I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT  A FEW DAYS AGO
YOU ARE COMPLETELY CORRECT  AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU
I HOPE THE REST OF THE YOINDIAN COMMUNITY GO THROUGH THIS THREAD AND GIVE IT A SINGLE THOUGTH ATLEAST

[Sonia01]

Recently I made a most which ultimately led me to make this post here, actually the text you see below is part of that post which is splitted.

This is very sad to see that only those people bothers to read and replies on Yoindia if they they are familiar with author. 

This means if there is a new person on Yoindia then hardly people will see his poetry because they don't know him. May be my work is not a quality work then at least give negative comments. I already said so that all negative or positive comments are welcome.

It is really disheartening, it just means that first I have to make friends on Yoindia and then only I should write here otherwise no one cares about your poetic work. I used to think that Yoindia is a place where people comes together who are somewhere poetic in nature or share same cause ie. Poetry but it appears its just a small scale social networking place where poetry is secondary. So its just dilemma for being poetry main concern over Yoinida.

I think it will be better if we turn Yoindia into some friendship and dating site then in that condition it won't look bad if poetry is considered secondary.

Lets see how many will dare to give their real opinion after reading it, I guess again it will be Celmira, Mayiha and Pooja ji only because only they are familiar to me on Yoindia so called Shayariadab, hence rest one can understand!

Ricky jii, yeh topic aapne likha accha kiya.
Aapne kaha ke naye logo ka shayri hum padte nahi encourage nahi karte hai.
Naye logo ka hum padte hai.. aur jo accha likha hota hai usko appreciate bi karte hai. Naye shayar ka likha ko pasand na kiye hote hum jaise members toh ABD ji, khwaish ji jaise naye log Moderator bane nahi hote..

Yahan jab se, Admin ji ne SIRF POETRY ko badawa dena hai kaha aap dekh sakte hai ke jitne bi naye aaye wo sms ya shared poems yahan posting
ker dete hai. Poem same same kitne bar padna padega? 

Aur sab chit_chat Section main aur mazakiya section mein aajate hai instead
of creating their own poems.

Sorry kisi ko bura laga toh.

Sonia

[abdbundeli]

Groupism (let me call it such) is good or bad is a matter of debate, but what I feel you can't compel any body to read whatever you prescribe! Good work will eventually attract the readers, who may also make comments. Very few people tolerate negative comments, hence no body likes to do so. Therefore, what I feel, let's not bother what a buddy says or not, but better continue with the work, and that shall succeed in due course of time! Little editing, in the beginning, is also likely to bring good results.
                 - abd bundeli

[Rajesh Harish]

Groupism (let me call it such) is good or bad is a matter of debate, but what I feel you can't compel any body to read whatever you prescribe! Good work will eventually attract the readers, who may also make comments. Very few people tolerate negative comments, hence no body likes to do so. Therefore, what I feel, let's not bother what a buddy says or not, but better continue with the work, and that shall succeed in due course of time! Little editing, in the beginning, is also likely to bring good results.
                 - abd bundeli

I totally agree with ABD Ji
We have to keep trying to interest others
No one can be forced to answer
Improvement on your work will definitely attract others

[Talat]

Naye shayar ka likha ko pasand na kiye hote hum jaise members toh ABD ji, khwaish ji jaise naye log Moderator bane nahi hote..

Just to correct you Sonia, Khwaish is NOT a new member ! Unko is site pe 2 saal se bhi zyada time ho gaya hai...aur Abd Ji ke baare main kuch kehne ki to meri majaal hi nahin...jaise suraj ke saamne ek diyasalaai ko jalana !!

Anyways, how and on what basis moderators are selected, thats a separate thing

[baadal102]

 
Itni aache baat aab samaj aa rahi hai aap sab ko
mujhe to yeh samaj nahi aata ki bagair register kiye
kyo kisi ko yo pe aane dete hai,without registration kiye
kisi ko na aane do. aur haan kabhi kabhi mere saath bhi aisa hua
hai jo pooja ji ne kaha hai so aap sab se request hai agar koi
likhta hai to jaroor comment do chahe wo aacha ho ya bura lakin
comment jaroor do. aur haan ricky ji sayad bekarar ji ne sahi hi kaha hai
sayad hi mujhe apni post main aap ka koi comment mila ho. jise dekho
wo usi ko comment deta hai jo use jaanta ho.
baaki aap sab ki jo marji wahi mari marji.


jo purane members hai kam se kam main un se to jaroor request karoonga ki wo thora sa time jaroor de yo ko taaki yo ko ek bahut hi aache jageh banaya jaaye poetry ke liye.

Baadal

[honeyrose]

Ricky ji ,,,

meine aapko kum dekha hai forum par aur
i think i have always comment on all new ya old
shayaris aur comment bhi di hai in fact kuch log
hai jaise mein unka naam nahi lena they had coment
bad remarks on my poem too ..which i always smile
and accept..aapki shayari toh humen bohat achcha lagta hai
Ricky ji also i appreciate on all new poems which is posted
on daily basis ..kabhi busy hone ke wajeh se i may have
missed one or two ..par mera comment hamesha reheta hai...
Mere liye koi mere post pe comment de ya na de
i always make it a point ki i always give my commnets on
shayaris new and old...

honeyrose__

[bekarar]

dear ricky,
mujhe bahoot azeeb lag raha hai..ki ye sawal aapne uthaya...aur ek kahawat yaad aai mujhe ki "soop hanse to hanse par chalni bhi hanse jisme hazaron ched"
ye baat agar talat ya pooja likhte to mayne rakhti thi lekin aap ko ye sab likhne ka haq nahi hai.....aap ko ye sab likhna nahi chahiye......aur khud ke girebaan me jhank ke bhi dekho....dusaron ki taraf ungaliyan uthane se pahle socho ki baaqi ki chaar ungaliyan aapki khud ki aur bhi hoti hain ricky ji..
hai koi jawab iska aapke paas?
hai to do............

[Sonia01]

dear ricky,
mujhe bahoot azeeb lag raha hai..ki ye sawal aapne uthaya...aur ek kahawat yaad aai mujhe ki "soop hanse to hanse par chalni bhi hanse jisme hazaron ched"
ye baat agar talat ya pooja likhte to mayne rakhti thi lekin aap ko ye sab likhne ka haq nahi hai.....aap ko ye sab likhna nahi chahiye......aur khud ke girebaan me jhank ke bhi dekho....dusaron ki taraf ungaliyan uthane se pahle socho ki baaqi ki chaar ungaliyan aapki khud ki aur bhi hoti hain ricky ji..
hai koi jawab iska aapke paas?
hai to do............

Bhai aisa nahi kehte. Yahan bahut se log hai jo jab waqt milta tab aate hai. Aap unka purane kalam padna aur yeh bahut bahut purane member hai. Inhe istarah kuch kehna mujhe accha nahi
lag raha hai. ricky ji ne overall kaha hai. unhone kahi
yeh nahi kaha hai ke mera likha kisi ne pada nahi.
Ishq section mein aap dekhoge toh pata chalega ke kitna
posts ka koyi bi reply nahi hota kya iske liye sirf ricky
jimmedar hai? Plz koyi kuch subject utaye toh unhe harsh
reply na de toh accha hai.