YOindia aik tajziyaa sachayee ke saath,.............

[Mohammad Touhid]

Touhid bhai apki baat bhi bilkul sahi hai ,ittefaq rakhta hoon ,haan agar active log samne aye aur wo ye zimmedari uthana chahe to hum hum unhe train kar sakte hain.

bilkul sahi kaha sahal bhai aapne.. aisa hi kuchh karna hoga..

[nashwani]

Laaiba jee..!!!

Mere khayal se apka uthaya mudda kuchh hadd tak sahi hai..Ye sach hai ki Admin and da Mods have certain responsibilities towards dis forum..Bt i think ki hame bhi ye samjhna chahiye ki har kisi ki ek personal and professional life hoti hai..aur mere nazariye se uske baad hi koi forum aata hai..Kai baar aisa hota hai ki ham responsibilities to le lete hain par use poora nahi kar paate..So main to bas yahi sabse guzarish karunga..Specially admin se ki apne keemati waqt me se agar thoda zayada waqt nikla paye.N iss forum ki taraf aur laaiba jee ke uthaye muddo.N par gaur farmaye.N to shayad iske active members ki sankhya badha sakte hain aur iss forum ko aur grow kiya ja sakta hai..Kyunki ham sab iss forum ko bahut importance dete hain life me aur mera khayal hai ki jo bhi shayri seekhna, padhna aur likhna pasand karta hai wo bhi dega..basharte site admnistrators active rahe.N..

I m glad laaiba jee ki apne iss forum ki bhalai ke bare me socha..
Ab dekhte hain apke iss mudde par Admin aur Mods ka reaction kya aata hai..

[khwahish]

Laaiba Ji Aapki Kayi Baatein Durust Bhi HaiN Aur Kayi Nahi Bhi... Par Jo Bhi Hai Aapne Apni Taraf Se Yoindia Ki Bhalaai Ke Liye Kahaa Hai isliye  We All Should Work For The Betterment Of yoindia...Iss Mein Koi Do Raaye Nahi...Aur Yeh Mudda Sirf Discussion Tak Hi Simit Naa Reh Jaaye ..Kyunki Aise Bahut Baar Hua Hai Ke Hum Kuch Betterment Ke Liye Sochte Hai..Kuch Suggestions Aage Rakhte Hai..Par Naa Jaane Kyun Unhe Practically Nibha Nahi Paate...Aapne Jo Baatein Kahee Hai..Inn Mein Kayi Cheezein Main Bhi Discuss Kar Chuka Hoon.Haan Open Thread Par Nahi Par Monitor Section Mein Yeh Baatein Hui Hai..

[laaiba]

duayen hain ke yahan sakoon , dosti, khaloos ki fiza banee rahe
shad rahen

[amit_prakash_meet]

लालीबा जी....
मैंने बहुत पहले ही इस बात को नोटिस किया था और ये भी अर्ज़ किया था कि rau देने और लेने कि प्रथा को या तो बंद किया जाये या फिर administrator जी खुद ही इसको मॉनिटर करें....लेकिन ऐसा कुछ हुआ नहीं....

[iAdmin]

First of all thank you  Laaiba mohataram that you have used "Support Section" to post this, else daily I see so many wrong posts in wrong section and we have to move them to right place. Other than that, I don't know why many people daily send PM when I have clearly asked to start topic in "Support Section" where most of the common questions has been solved already. So I have to answer them , solve their problem and also show them "support section" to use in future.

I understand what you are trying to say but have you seen the other side of story, I have already given you glimpse in above paragraph, but still lets talk little more. You said that I never respond to each post. Well said but I think wherever I am required, I always reply. Have you imagined that how many new posts and topics are their daily on Yoindia Shayariadab ? On average there are more than 500 posts daily on Yoindia Shayariadab and lots of new topic started. Seriously I don't have caliber to go through all and see if I can reply there. Yes, I do come daily, I see a special place "Monitor Section" which is meant for planning and discussing things on Yoindia Shayariadab. I also visit "Support Section" daily to see if anyone need my assistance. (This is the reason I saw your topic and replying here). Eventually I ends up giving 2-3 hours daily here (not to mention special days when we work on Newsletter and other regular stuff when I give full day).

Do you know no one on Yoindia Shayariadab (including myself) is being paid to run this site. At the moment, in terms of monetization , this site is suffering badly due to various reasons (technical and non-technical). Time to time this issue has been raised but ultimately I am paying from my pockets. Those advt. you are seeing are about to go as they are only taking space but not useful at all.

So, you can't blame Monitors for their inactivity, everyone has their own life, they are volunteer. Most of them , infact all of them are well known Yoindia Shayariadab member, used to be very active once. Due to various reason , many are no  more active, few are willing to get back to Yoindia Shayariadab.

Do you know behind the seen how much work we do ? You somewhere mentioned about Newsletter poems, do you know there are more than a thousand POEMS are posted on Yoindia Shayariadab every month, going through each poem and then picking up good one. Hope you understand what it takes. Still we always mention in newsletter that "it impossible to include all gems of Yoindia Shayariadab".


Hope you know how much resources it take to run a busy site like Yoindia Shayariadab. The monthly expenses of a server is equal to salary of a peon and I am paying for it. Because like everyone , I also like this place. From time to time, I asked user to support but actually out of many thousands very few came forward which was not sufficient enough.You know, even if 10%  of total Yoindia Shayariadab members can really help, then we can make this place a wonder. But the truth is that from past experience I know that no one will actually take stand when there is real help required by Yoindia Shayariadab.


Clearly you are not aware of such thing or this side, infact the way you have typed using bold fonts, bright color and no particular care for expressing yourself properly or no structured language was used, it was hard reading it. You can see I am answering you in precise and clear way, so that you can understand.

Somewhere you mentioned there must be creative threads to increase engagement and things, but I am yet to see any post from you here, clearly you are not even aware of it though its on main page :
http://www.yoindia.com/shayariadab/yoindias-news-and-announcement/yoindia-shayariadab-monthly-discussion-poetry-as-stressbuster-t111109.0.html

Also, there was a reference to RAU, I hope you have seen discussion where it was discussed in details. Hope you also understand that in real world it is not possible to make everyone happy. I know lots of people who likes RAU and I know again lots of people those are against it. Rau is certainly not a "METER" to check one's skill, but we had improved it to make useful. Certainly, we can have lot more and better things but it will require lots of resources and time. I don't expect you to understand all those but should understand that we are volunteer here, we do things when we get time for from our business and profession. I wonder why you have not used RAU thread if this post is about RAU.


Do you know, it took me more than one hour to answer your post, I went through your post, comments and then typed it. Though I am sure I can type faster than 99% people here but I have to make sure what I write is supported by facts. There are lots of many other things I have not mentioned here yet.

Now, I may or may not have answered all your queries but I expect you to read it all properly and when you think that you can understand it properly then only reply. I request again, take your time , there is no hurry but if you reply ignoring things I mentioned here or you just wanted to say what you want to say without actually trying to understand facts and figures in technical term then next in next reply I will not be gentle as I tried to be in this post.

Infact it was quite disappointing to see that after all the hardwork by team what we are seeing here is  complaint.. may be you could have used all your Affection for Yoindia Shayariadab in some constructive way, may be instead, you could have come up with practical advices instead of this criticism.

Then this thread would have been really nice discussion. I hope you understand what I am saying.

[premdeep]

  a very very apreciable and realistic post by admin i heartly congratulates to you for this and hope all will understand it in positive manner and feel a grief of real things inside this post.

[laaiba]

Mr Admin
I appreciate your feedback but the fact I wanted to tell is that working behind the scene is good but the thing is that is ur efforts are not shown on the disply
U n ur team efforts are commendable but it looks like oneway traffic. I just wanted to tell u the people who are active they shud come front n co operate with u as I hav noticed many modz being online late nite
This show the hav enough time to make good effors to bring this site to a different level
Here I like to mention that I don't want to create a chaos here .I hope u understand n take a necessary step further.
Thank you.
stay blessed

[Iftakhar Ahmad]

Laaiba jee, Assalaam-o-alaikum,


Bahut achha laga dekh kar ke aapne apne mudde khulkar ham sab ke saamne rakhe. Waaqai aapne ek qaabil-e-taareef qadam uthaaya hai.

Aap ke points jaise ke YoIndia pe kuch aisa creative  hona chaahiye jis se likhne waaley encouraged hoN, aur scale jis base pe "YoIndian Shayar", "Shayarana mizaaj" wagairah title diye jaate haiN, waaqai qaabil-e-ghaur haiN.

Per jahaaN tak Admin aur mods ke participation ki baat hai, to maiN kahuNga ke yahaaN pe jo bhi aata hai, apne personal life se bamushkil time nikaal kar aata hai. Ye site successfully chal rahi hai aur iske piche unhiN ka haath hai. Khayr iss baare meN zyaada nahiN boluNga maiN.

Aur rahi baat mods ke ya baaqi logoN ke apni posts per response ki aur RAU ki, to yahaaN per maiN kahuNga ke hameN iski bilkul parwaah nahiN karni chaahiye. MaiN yahaaN per- "Three Idiots" movie ka dialogue yaad dilaana chaahuNga- "Success ke piche mat bhago, excellence ke piche bhago, agar excellence hai to success jhak maar ke tumhaare paas aayegi". Ya Allama Iqbal ka she'r:

 Khud hi ko kar buland itna k har taqdeer se pahle
 Khuda bande se khud pooche bata teri raza kya hai


MaiN khud apna example dena chaahuNga maine do saal pehle YoIndia join kiya tha. Starting meN meri posts per bahut kam replies aate thay ya jo aate bhi thay wo bhi anmane dhang ke. Iski wajah kya thi?? iski wajah ye thi ki meri writing meN dam nahiN tha. Tab maine improve karna shuru kiya, maiN Saini Sir, Hasan Sir jaise logoN ke contact meN aaya unse bahut seekha aur infact abhi bhi seekhta huN. Aur aaj Masha Allah meri posts per sabhi proper response dete haiN aur agar koi nahiN deta to maiN iski parwaah nahiN karta.

Mera to ek hi shaghal hai, apne aap ko improve karte rahna, mujhe pata hai ke meri posts pe agar koi aaj response nahiN de raha, to usse ek na ek din majboor hona padega response dene par aur agar koi phir bhi response nahiN de raha to iska matlab ye hua ke usse shayari ki samajh nahiN hai, ya mujh se koi ranjish hai.

Rau wagairah ki jahaaN tak baat hai to mujhe bhi pata hai airi ghayri posts per Rau diye jaate haiN, per is ke liye ham kisi ko rok to nahiN sakte na?? Per ayk taraf aise log bhi haiN jo jaante haiN ke aside of Rau, kaun kya hai aur Rau bhi bahut justify kar ke dete haiN. To agar aapne aise logoN kaa dil jeet liya to apne aap Rau mileNge.

Dekhiye, meri nazar meN aapki writing kaafi achhi hai, shayari ka achha talent hai aap meN. Aap YoIndia pe behr meN likhne waale chuninda logoN ki jamaat se ta'alluk rakhti haiN. Aap ko in sab baatoN meN ulajhne ki bajaae sirf apne aap per dhyaan dena chaahiye.


Allah Haafiz,
Iftakhar Ahmad

[laaiba]

 iftikhaar jee afsos iss baa.t kaa hai ke meri baat ko na admin ne samjha na aap samjh rahe haiN,....mera matlab sirf craetive work se thaa ke admins our mods mil kar aise creative topics create karen jo members ko ache lageN na ke back pe kia problms hain unkoh discuss karna ,.....any way yeh forum mera nahin admin kaa hai , bas aap log bajaye iss baat ko accept karne ke fazool baton main uljh rahe hain ,.........
matlab kia tha kia bana diyaa aa. sab ne , our yun bhi main ne sirf admin se raaye maangi thi aap sab se nahiN ,.....unhon ne reply kia main ne unko reply kar dia, thths all
maiN jo toota phoota likhtee huN woh main jantee huN,.....uske liye mujhe aapkee janib se dee gayee sanad ki zaroorat nahin,...............
main na sirf apne kaam per dhiyan deti hun uss jagah jahan main kaam kartee hun uska b dhiyan rakhtee huN ,.....hope u understand
stay blessed

[laaiba]

mujhe admin ke sirf iss para graph main intrest lagaa our
khushi huyee ke woh iss ko accept kar rahe haiN
Infact it was quite disappointing to see that after all the hardwork by team what we are seeing here is  complaint.. may be you could have used all your Affection for Yoindia Shayariadab in some constructive way, may be instead, you could have come up with practical advices instead of this criticism.

Then this thread would have been really nice discussion. I hope you understand what I am saying.

[Iftakhar Ahmad]

Laaiba jee, aapke comments per inline reply karta huN:


"our yun bhi main ne sirf admin se raaye maangi thi aap sab se nahiN"- Mohtarma ye ek open thread hai jisse koi bhi padh sakta hai aur jaisa ke aapne kaha ke aapne sirf admin se raay maaNgi, to beshak, jawaab admin ko hi dena chahiye, ghayroN ko beech meN nahiN koodna chaahiye. Per chuNki ye ek open thread hai aur aapne ghayroN ke baare meN kuch likha hai to ghayr log boleNge hi.

Aur aisa nahiN hai ke aapne talkhi dikha di to maiN reply karna chorr duN, bilkul nahiN. Maine jo bhi kaha hai wo bilkul aapke faayde ke liye kaha hai aur sach kaha hai, ho sakta hai wo thoda talkh ho, par sach hai aur sach to hamesha talkh hi hota hai. Koi bhi samajhdaar samajh sakta hai ke maine jo reply diya hai wo bilkul aapke sawaaloN ka hi reply hai.

"hope u understand stay blessed"- Pehle to meri khayr khwahi ke liye thank you. Masha Allah mujhmeN itni understanding, temparament hai ke agar mere saath koi talkhi se pesh aaye, yaa mujhe criticize karey to maiN isse positively leta huN. Aur infact maiN critics pasand karta huN. Jab tak ek insaan criticize nahiN hoga, tab tak usmeN sudhaar nahiN hoga. Waah waahi aur makhaan lagaana to sabhi karte haiN per criticize karne waale log bahut kam hote haiN.  

''rau'' ko jis award kee soorat main aap ne tarteeb diaa woh bhee zaatee pasand our na pasand par depend karne laga hai, lekin gustakhee moaaf aik third class post par b rau gift kar diye jate haiN,............. aisa q? - Iss line ka matlab koi bhi samajh sakta hai gehraai tak, aur maine pehle comment meN bilkul appropriate reply kiya hai. Again, ye to logoN ki apni pasand aur understanding pe depend karta hai, koi kisi ko kaise rok sakta hai?

aur aapke mods b yahee kaam karte hain , dil chaha toh reply kar diya warna yunhee online ho kar chale gaye , kia shaahana andaaz haiN jee,.. Koi agar hamaari post pe reply nahiN kar raha to ham kya kar sakte haiN? bhai maiN to ek hi kaam kar sakta huN, apni shayari improve karna aur heading meN subject ke saath apna naam bhi likhna taaki logoN ka dhayaan jaae ke ye falaaN member ki post hai aur ismeN kuch achha hoga padhne ko. Ab meri mostly posts per pe aapke aur bahut logoN ke comments nahiN hote, to maiN kya aapse aur unse naaraazgi mol luN?


Dekhiye yahaaN per sabhi pehli baar meN hi achhi tarah samajh chuke haiN ke aap kya kehna chaahti haiN, aur definitely iss ke liye kuch na kuch zaroor hoga. Aap ko aisa lagta hai k koi aap ki baat ko  ghalat direction meN le jaa raha hai to ye ghalat hai, aisa bilkul nahiN hai. HameN ek critics mila hai aapki taraf se jiska ham khayr maqdam karte haiN aur hamaare liye ye achhi baat hai ke aapne hameN mauqa diya sudhaar karne ka, definitely iss pe kuch na kuch hoga.

Monthly mushaayra, different categories meN best poets ke liye monthly ya quaterly polling wagairah kuch ideas haiN mere dimaagh meN haal-filhaal, aur bhi kuch sochuNga aur aap ke paas bhi koi idea ho to zaroor bataayeN, aap bhi achhe se think kareN koi idea aur bataayeN. Aap ko ek salaah duNga ke aap apni posts ki heading meN apna naam zaroor likha kareN, aisa maiN aur bahut log karte haiN, aapne dekha hoga, isse bahut farq padega.


Hope you understand from here and the discussion doesnot go away from the topic, Allah Haafiz.

[laaiba]

iftekhar jee ,
 aapka joshila ,bhadkeela our nokeela andaz dekhaa,
lekin meri majbooi hai ke main lambi baat na karti hun , na sunti hun ,na padhti hun, our na samjhtee hun,..is liye mazrat ke aapkee sari baten nahin padh saktee,.......bas ye keh ker bat khatm karoon gee ke agar koi bhadkeela topic start karte ,apni energy wahan sarf karte toh zyada behter hota ,....our impact bhee acha padtaa,..........
phir main yaqeenan aapke liye claping kartee ,
 well shuqria ,..

[Mohammad Touhid]

First of all thank you  Laaiba mohataram that you have used "Support Section" to post this, else daily I see so many wrong posts in wrong section and we have to move them to right place. Other than that, I don't know why many people daily send PM when I have clearly asked to start topic in "Support Section" where most of the common questions has been solved already. So I have to answer them , solve their problem and also show them "support section" to use in future.

I understand what you are trying to say but have you seen the other side of story, I have already given you glimpse in above paragraph, but still lets talk little more. You said that I never respond to each post. Well said but I think wherever I am required, I always reply. Have you imagined that how many new posts and topics are their daily on Yoindia Shayariadab ? On average there are more than 500 posts daily on Yoindia Shayariadab and lots of new topic started. Seriously I don't have caliber to go through all and see if I can reply there. Yes, I do come daily, I see a special place "Monitor Section" which is meant for planning and discussing things on Yoindia Shayariadab. I also visit "Support Section" daily to see if anyone need my assistance. (This is the reason I saw your topic and replying here). Eventually I ends up giving 2-3 hours daily here (not to mention special days when we work on Newsletter and other regular stuff when I give full day).

Do you know no one on Yoindia Shayariadab (including myself) is being paid to run this site. At the moment, in terms of monetization , this site is suffering badly due to various reasons (technical and non-technical). Time to time this issue has been raised but ultimately I am paying from my pockets. Those advt. you are seeing are about to go as they are only taking space but not useful at all.

So, you can't blame Monitors for their inactivity, everyone has their own life, they are volunteer. Most of them , infact all of them are well known Yoindia Shayariadab member, used to be very active once. Due to various reason , many are no  more active, few are willing to get back to Yoindia Shayariadab.

Do you know behind the seen how much work we do ? You somewhere mentioned about Newsletter poems, do you know there are more than a thousand POEMS are posted on Yoindia Shayariadab every month, going through each poem and then picking up good one. Hope you understand what it takes. Still we always mention in newsletter that "it impossible to include all gems of Yoindia Shayariadab".


Hope you know how much resources it take to run a busy site like Yoindia Shayariadab. The monthly expenses of a server is equal to salary of a peon and I am paying for it. Because like everyone , I also like this place. From time to time, I asked user to support but actually out of many thousands very few came forward which was not sufficient enough.You know, even if 10%  of total Yoindia Shayariadab members can really help, then we can make this place a wonder. But the truth is that from past experience I know that no one will actually take stand when there is real help required by Yoindia Shayariadab.


Clearly you are not aware of such thing or this side, infact the way you have typed using bold fonts, bright color and no particular care for expressing yourself properly or no structured language was used, it was hard reading it. You can see I am answering you in precise and clear way, so that you can understand.

Somewhere you mentioned there must be creative threads to increase engagement and things, but I am yet to see any post from you here, clearly you are not even aware of it though its on main page :
http://www.yoindia.com/shayariadab/yoindias-news-and-announcement/yoindia-shayariadab-monthly-discussion-poetry-as-stressbuster-t111109.0.html

Also, there was a reference to RAU, I hope you have seen discussion where it was discussed in details. Hope you also understand that in real world it is not possible to make everyone happy. I know lots of people who likes RAU and I know again lots of people those are against it. Rau is certainly not a "METER" to check one's skill, but we had improved it to make useful. Certainly, we can have lot more and better things but it will require lots of resources and time. I don't expect you to understand all those but should understand that we are volunteer here, we do things when we get time for from our business and profession. I wonder why you have not used RAU thread if this post is about RAU.


Do you know, it took me more than one hour to answer your post, I went through your post, comments and then typed it. Though I am sure I can type faster than 99% people here but I have to make sure what I write is supported by facts. There are lots of many other things I have not mentioned here yet.

Now, I may or may not have answered all your queries but I expect you to read it all properly and when you think that you can understand it properly then only reply. I request again, take your time , there is no hurry but if you reply ignoring things I mentioned here or you just wanted to say what you want to say without actually trying to understand facts and figures in technical term then next in next reply I will not be gentle as I tried to be in this post.

Infact it was quite disappointing to see that after all the hardwork by team what we are seeing here is  complaint.. may be you could have used all your Affection for Yoindia Shayariadab in some constructive way, may be instead, you could have come up with practical advices instead of this criticism.

Then this thread would have been really nice discussion. I hope you understand what I am saying.

True words.. I Appreciated Admin ji yes we have already discussed it.., we understand how difficult to run a forum if the expenses are incurred only by you and the other things.. Well said..

[shaukeen]

Amazing.
a truth accepted by members is being defended in harsh words by the Admin.

Now, I may or may not have answered all your queries but I expect you to read it all properly and when you think that you can understand it properly then only reply. I request again, take your time , there is no hurry but if you reply ignoring things I mentioned here or you just wanted to say what you want to say without actually trying to understand facts and figures in technical term then next in next reply I will not be gentle as I tried to be in this post.
 
Laaiba, you are absolutely correct.
May be you could not express yourself as admin pointed out.
Admin own's this site and those who speak his words will be rewarded not you.
But the threatening language used by Admin to you as a girl is highly objectionable.